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Friday, November 03, 2006

An Open Response

My post last week on former state Representative Ralph Arza and his use of the n-word triggered the most comments of any post on this humble blog. One of the most recent comments was left yesterday by that ever-present Anonymous person (he/she really gets around, eh?)

In the comment, our fair Anonymous from an undisclosed fair location really gives it to white Cubans, and covers everything from Nelson Mandela to the "social clash" between blacks and whites. The comment is posted in its entirety below.

I am opening this up for responses from our esteemed readers. After all, it's never a bad time to educate.
Maybe I'd have to be in Florida, inhaling the cocaine laden air to not find so many posts here, as absolutely sick.

Cuban vs. Black

Obviously there aren't too many black cubans posting, because the tone seems heavy on the white cubans inbred mentality of racism that conveniently excises anything black/african from their culture, until they want to shout about Cuban music. Azucar Negra indeed.


Oh how horrible Mandela was to give any praise to Castro who offered support against the system of racism and Apartheid that had been destroying his people for centuries. Of course WHITE cubans can't find respect for anyone that fights against a racist system - White cuban are only against economic systems that deprive them of slave plantations, automatic racial privilege, mafia gambling, and in general the luxury life while watching poverty in the fields enjoyment that they feel is inherent in for the descendants of slave owners and pirates. Sorry, I meant to say inherent for the descendants of Spain's best exports.

Social Clash

Obviously it is important for many Cubans to believe that all African-Americans are poor, uneducated, criminals, lazy and uncultured, because that makes them feel they have a group of people to consider lower than them. Reminds the Cubans of the home they fled when because they lost their plantations and unquestioned right to racism and class bigotry. It is even easier to not understand the history of slavery, racism, class issues in the the US, when they deliberately ignored them in their own Cuban country.

That a lot of African-Americans are good people, cultured, educated,kind, generous, hard-working, etc. is something unacceptable to Cubans who grew up with the image of the "lazy" black slave who just happened to do most of the work in the country.

Also lost on such people is the fact that African-Americans didn't flee the US, but stayed and fought for rights, justice, etc. that made American even begin to live up to what American ethics claimed to be from the beginning. It is easy to be smug and flee to another country with struggles fought by OTHER people for a better national ethic, instead of staying in your own country and making a change.

Of course this Cubans cannot understand racism very well, because in general Latin Americans is centuries backwards on such issues. Blacks in those countries trying very hard to be seen as "latino" not black, because they know that black is unnacceptable unless you sing like Celia Cruz or can serve as a low-paid slave.

For those white cubans (and non-skin color denying blacks and "mulatos", and those who have a whole lot of relatives who are obvious blacks/mulatos even if they themselves came out white)who are not racist, I don't know how you can exist in a community for whom racism is more natural than breathing.


Blogger Val Prieto said...

here's a little reminder for anonymous, or Linus and his booboo blanket, as I like to call him:

Cuba integrated it's society a FULL 20 YEARS before the US.

Look it up, Linus, then go back and hide behind that booboo blanket of anonimity once again. Coward.

10:29 AM, November 03, 2006  
Blogger Alex said...

Robert, please don't give more attention to that idiot. He's been peddling that tired tune from blog to blog.

12:13 PM, November 03, 2006  
Blogger Robert said...

That's OK, I figure I'd have fun giving the guy a little rope to "play with".

12:42 PM, November 03, 2006  
Blogger The Universal Spectator said...

I think anyone hiding under "anonymous" or a pseudonym should be banned! (Just kidding, Alex.)

This idiot is a serious bigot. He truly detests us without knowing a damn thing about us. Ignore him. His rant is as worthless as a Bill Clinton truth...

1:16 PM, November 03, 2006  
Anonymous Ku Kux Klan said...

Hmmm. You're being too hard on the guy. His arguments make a lot of sense to us.

2:45 PM, November 03, 2006  
Blogger Dayngr said...

I don't understand the whole anonymous thing either or why bloggers allow them. If you have something to say, have the balls to say it but identify yourself in some way so we know who we are responding to.

With regard to the post, I think there is a generalization being used, obviously, but just like many of my fellow white non-hispanics there are many white Cubans who look down on black people.

I was fortunate enough to be born FREE in America but I will say this, if my country should be taken over in some way, shapre or form like Cuba was I certainly wouldn't flee. I would fight for my homeland.

11:42 AM, November 04, 2006  
Blogger Robert said...


My instinct would be the same, I would fight for my homeland if it were threatened.

Fortunately, neither of us have been in a place and time where we've had to make that decision. My parents and grandparents had to make that hard choice. Many Cubans did fight, and were either betrayed by JFK at the Bay of Pigs, or were severely outnumbered and beaten after years of struggle in the Escambray Mountains.

The level of repression was, and is still, severe. Many people who were even suspected of possibly being against fidel were thrown in prison and/or executed soon after the takeover in 1959. The regime also confiscated all guns.

Unfortunately, castro also had the support of the people, at least initially. That is a sad fact that we're still trying to overcome.

5:31 PM, November 04, 2006  
Blogger Jonathan said...

Sometimes it makes sense to fight, sometimes it makes sense to run. In my family everyone who left Europe before WW2 did OK, but most of the people who stayed were killed. Sometimes dictators are too strong and too ruthless to be defeated from inside the country. People generally do the best they can, and I don't blame anyone for leaving or for staying. I'm glad that I haven't been in any similar situations.

11:44 PM, November 04, 2006  
Blogger Dayngr said...

Hmmm... a JFK bash. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

12:45 PM, November 05, 2006  
Blogger Robert said...

Not a bash. A legitimate criticism. What JFK did (or didn't do) regarding Bay of Pigs was a shame to this country and to those who volunteered to go down there.

1:03 PM, November 05, 2006  
Blogger Lissy said...

He's a harsh truth, but someone has got to say it.

First of all, let me tell you I'm a black Cuban-American. My grandparents were Batista sympathizers and they fled with their children. My father finished high school here in the States. He then went on to serve in the Army as there was a draft. When he was done with serving the country he became an electrical engineer. To this day he has yet to call himself an African-American. According to him and the rest of us, we're all Cuban-Americans.

We have a very large family of black Cubans and through the years they've married white Cubans, black Cubans and even some black Jamaicans, as some of the family fled to Jamaica.

Now that you know where I'm coming from, let me tell that Anonymous and any others something that nobody has brought up.

There are very little or no black folks that are immigrants in this country that would ever call themselves African-Americans. They're Cuban, Jamaican, Haitians, Dominicans, Bahamians, or Puertoricans. The truth is that anyone from South Africa whose white can call themselves an African-American too. So looking for a politically correct label other than calling a spade a spade has turned out looking stupid.

The reason for that is while the blacks in the U.S. have decided to keep the chip on their shoulders and play the race card at every turn, blacks everywhere else have used the cards they've been dealt to make themselves a better future and haven't griped about racism at every opportunity.

That being said I know that there are plenty of black Americans that are successful. I don't understand why the black American continues to let extremist groups speak for them. Those groups are the true racists. They are the ones who continue to try to make rifts and canyons between the races

The Cubans came only 47 years ago, without a penny to their names, without welfare and without the language and look what they have accomplished. They didn't form a coalition to force people to accept them. They made lemonade out of lemons. They mopped floors and waited on tables, all the while instilling pride and hard work in their children. Teaching them that the only way to get ahead was to get an education and work hard. Who cares what people thought about the loud and rowdy Cubans. Let them point and let them move away, we're different, so what. Now look at all of those who laughed and moved away. They're moving back like nuts trying to get a piece of the pie the Cubans baked in South Florida.

Blacks from other countries don't want to be called "The Successful Black Man" They want be known as the "Successful Man", period. They don't want special treatment. They know that if you've got it, people are going to want it, regardless of your skin color or ethnicity.

I take offense with anyone who tries to treat me with kid gloves because I'm black. I don't want people around me walking on eggshells because they may insult me and start a riot.

Groups that pretend they're there to help the black man have other agendas, and helping is not one of them. Stop being so blind. Stop seeing everything as a black vs. white issue, it is not. The world does not revolve around us. Life is not about "black", "white", "red" or "yellow" skin. It is about proving you're a good human worthy of respect. Respect comes automatically, if you deserve it...

2:14 PM, November 05, 2006  
Blogger Mad Black Woman said...

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10:20 PM, June 02, 2008  
Blogger Mad Black Woman said...

This comment is for Lissy. I am an african-american woman, and indeed very proud of it.After reading your post, I realize some body (preferably, an african-american) needs to say this, I am sick and tired of you so called black immigrants dissing on african-americans. Unlike your black family, my people did not run with their tails between their asses from a government that persecuted them, my people had the balls and the audacity to stand up and demand for their just rights. You say yor grandfather came over here 47 years ago,well my grand father came over here, against his will 350 years ago, therefore you have no right or knowledge to speak for or against the african-american experience,had it not been for the sacrifice of life and blood of my afrian-american ancestors, black hispanics like you and yours would never had the rights that you all freely enjoy, funny how you and yours so quickly forget that!As for you not wanting to associate yourselves with the african-american title-WHO GIVES A DAMN! you say your black cuban family did not complain and that they took lemons and made lemonade-wait a minute black cuban chic! it was because of the civil rights movement that afircan-americans gave your people the LEMON! You say we cry racism, it does exist and 400 years of slavery we have every right to call it what it is.If you cannot respect what afircan-americans did 350 years before your family showed up, then you can pack your bags and take the trip back to communist, black cubans scared, don't know how to stand up and fight for your rights , but stand up and run to another country and diss the black natives of another country-GO BACK!!! TO CUBA and see if you can have a better life. I doubt that very seriously!!! Besides I would rather be proud that my ancestors took a boat over here than have to swim!!!!

10:29 PM, June 02, 2008  

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